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Can you upload a detailed photo of your damaged board?

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Hi Guys,
Thanks for looking at this for me.
I do appreciate the fact I probably need to get a Data Recovery, but it seems odd that the HDD now powers up with a new board....

Anyway, attached are the images of the board which I believe to be broken. Sorry the Flash doesn't do it too many favours, what can you tell?

Cheers
Neil
Please do not place your board on carpet! Keep it away from static.
If you have a multimeter, set it to the 200 ohms range and measure the resistances of the two TVS diodes. I'm not familiar with your board, but I suspect that the part above the top left corner of the long rectangular RAM chip in the first photo is your 12V TVS diode. The part to the right and slightly above it appears to be the 5V TVS diode. If either is shorted, ie if it measures close to zero ohms, snip it out with side cutters or desolder it. The drive will work perfectly well without it, albeit without protection on the affected supply rail. Just be absolutely sure your power supply is OK.

Your photo is quite poor, as you say, so I can't tell if there are any fuses which may have opened.
The following article may help you identify the components:

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Thanks so much for that!!!!
Its not on a carpet, its on my kitchen worktop:) I shall certainly be avoiding static.
Thanks again, I will let you know how I get on

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User avatar In the 5th picture down:
TVS left to the Rectangular chip (RAM/Cache) is damaged.
To confirm I would still New a better picture, but even in the blurriness I can see that it looks split/damaged.
What was the voltage amount of the adapter you plugged in? Hopefully the TVS did their job.

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Also, just a quick point. Whilst I appreciate that the old board could be fubbered, why would the HDD not work with an identical board from exactly the same HDD?

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Hi Russ, the voltage was a touch over 15V that was plugged into it.
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Sorry, me again. The TVS does indeed appear to be split. Whats the fix. And as I asked earlier, why with a new board would this cause the HDD not work?

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neil-uk wrote: Sorry, me again. The TVS does indeed appear to be split. Whats the fix. And as I asked earlier, why with a new board would this cause the HDD not work? The fix is to remove it. If, for continued protection, you wish to replace it, you can use an SMBJ12A part from Farnell: Check the fuses also. See ... http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HD160JJ_TVS_fuse.jpg http://www.arkadasbilgisayar.com/images ... 02_PCB.jpg
The reason a board swap didn't work was because each board stores drive specific calibration data determined at the factory.
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User avatar of course. this kind of PCB without ROM chip. that you need to do some special work on it. please contact me if still need help. i can handle it. thanks.

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New subject: Re: Issue with hard drive Hi Guys,
Just had a bit of a check on the Meter; - The reading of TVS12 (the broken looking one) is 0 Ohms - The reading of TVS5 is on average 8.1 K Ohms - A 'bleep test' of Fuse 12 is no bleep at all - A 'bleep test' of Fuse 5 is a long continuous bleep - The reading of Fuse 12 is on average 1.475 M Ohms - The reading of Fuse 5 is 0 Ohms.

What conclusions can we draw from this, and what can we look at to get the HDD running as a temp fix?
Cheers
Neil
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First make absolutely sure your power source is OK. Then remove TVS12, and bridge F12 with a length of wire. Take care not to introduce any solder shorts. In the long term, replace TVS12 with an SMBJ12A, and replace F12 with a 2A picofuse, or smt fuse if you can find one. If the above is too difficult for you, any junior TV technician should be able to do it for a few beers. Good luck.

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Hi Guys,
We are all fixed and back to normal.
Thanks so much to everyone who has assisted, and offered some great advice.
You are genuinely a bunch of fantastic guys, and clear geniuses :)
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Hi Guys, Bit of an update The HDD works perfectly now, in my Caddy. But I am having issues getting Windows to boot of it, when put in my server. Can anyone advise what is likely to be the cause of this - and any fixes? Thanks neil

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Upon closer inspection, I noticed what I believed to be a diode exploded on the PCB. I was told that upon removing it that it would continue to function, but it doesn't. So, i've included a picture of it and am hoping that someone here can identify what the component once was so I can maybe replace it and get all of my data back! Please and thank you. Adasm wrote: hello all, i'm new to this board and i must say it is a very informative forum. .... I was told that upon removing it that it would continue to function, but it doesn't. Hi, welcome to the forum. From your statements did someone in this forum tell you that it would work? Also what did the one tell you that had made your pcb fry up? My next question is what do you wanna do to the hdd --repair/data recovery? Someone told me that they had the same problem and they were certain that component could be removed and still ahve it work. I'd like to repair the HDD and keep using it, but im mainly concerned with getting my data back. So, either replacing that specific component or replacing the PCB. What would the average cost be of professional data recovery? It depends on WHO did tell YOU thatand if you know what youre doing :mrgreen: Good luck. What did your hard drive do before you removed that burnt item? What is your hard drive doing now after you removed the burnt item? Well, the component might have been something like FT403PV, maybe not, maybe similar. Probably it matters not, because more than likely some other component/s is/are faulty. :wink: So even if you find the match, as you have requested, your drive probably will not work. So some other solution must be applied to get your data, which might require more than just DIY skills. DR experts should be able to get your data quite easily, and if you mess around too much with the pcb, you might just never get your data. Maybe the drive already has a fault (electronic) on the circuits inside the hard drive (HDA) then of course it's quite a big job, but more importantly, maybe something you do while "repairing" the pcb causes a fault inside the drive (HDA), then you would be sorry not to have sent it to an expert in the first place. Your call :D Well, what I see is a BIG damage to the PCB (multilayer, btw). But data can still be recovered (hope there was no tinkering done on the HDA) because the problem - for me - is elsewhere , or better, IT WAS (now there are at least two). The original idea was to do it by himself with no money and with the help of Internet (the realm of all knowledge and all bullshit at same time) and this is the result... Don't think data was important if such kind of attempts have been done, but I can be wrong.... I think only seeing the drive a cost can be estimated correctly. For once I start to ask a novice ?'s and get the support of the pro's. Thanx guys for the assist and not telling him upfront to send it to a pro and all the crap (half truths) put towards a starter. Hey guys don't frighten him with too much know how. Talking big is not going to get his hdd working or data back. Please give him the steps on how to solve the issue. For example. 1. if there was no clicking from the hdd then .... 2. Are u willing to send your hard drive to an expect for evalution who would.... 3. Changing the PCB might ......... 4 If changing the pcb does not ......... 5. do you have any knowledge about how to write the firmware..... 6. Do you know how to image ......... Peace Out This kind of public service is discontinued :D Hello Everybody We have this HDD _________________ Knowledge is more important than money!!! Arkadas Bilgisayar Data Recovery Services Istanbul / TURKEY http://www.datakurtarma.com hi felibo, I wish I could understand what you are asking, suggesting, expecting, hoping, wishing, advising, telling, complimenting, and what else? :? arkadas, This board is not suitable for Adasm. Nice 1 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...................... You guys took the bait. wanted to see ur reaction by touching the hot buttons. Blackst for instance has dicontinued his public service, folded his tent and left the pavilion Derp is kind of confused for I tried to draw an outline for DR but there are so many ways for DR as there are in killing a cat. Arkadas just supplied a hdd even though the pic adasm put up does not include any specs. I was just hopping all the other guys pcimmage, jonants, falther, rameez, Data Recovery lab (mumbai), hdd spaz, thatdellguy, drccsc, hddguy... the pro's to name few could have joined to see the mess that would be created at the fair grounds. SORRY, NO HARD FEELINGS Peace Out oy yoi, yoi, yoi, yoi, :roll: I did not know things were that bad in washintong. DC to be precise. The problem/bad thing at the moment is heath care All I want is my data back. I havent attempted anything to this board but to remove the remnants of said component. The person who gave me the info was the tech guru at my company (an aerospace company). I consider myself electronically savvy and can do alot of my own repairs, but i`ve never attempted anything on a HDD before, hence why i`m here asking questions. I`m hoping to do this myself to save the hundreds associated with professional help. I`m assuming if I replace this component it can work, or if not then replacing the PCB. But again, i`m only assuming and came here to get answers. So, any more questions you may have about the HDD in question i`ll gladly answer, hoping that you can answer mine. Additional info: model: St3120026A pn: 9w2083-301 HDA pn: 100278290 Config: DYY-11 FW: 3.06 Come to Italy then :mrgreen: ok Adasm this is what u need to do AT YOUR OWN RISK If u change the pcb you might have to get the firmware to match that hdd. So you might get the pcb but might need to write the firmware to the chip which needs special equipment that is why the saying is "SEND IT TO THE PRO'S" So go ahead and find the pcb that matches the hdd, and if after changing it, and you power it on, and hear clicking noises don't say you where not forewarned. Then you would have to pay more to get the data you need. Hope you can handle the truth frelibo, You just proven you know nothing about DR. Adasm, The way you hacked off the component in question shows that you cannot do the work which is required. You could start by going on a soldering course if you insist on doing this yourself. :wink: get help bud, spend a little money and you will probably get your data. 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The 4000 plus family pictures and whatnot on that harddrive are too valuable to lose. Thanx again for all of your input, much appreciated! Hi Adasm, Smart move - I am sure you will get your data. :D If it help i have a spare ST3120026A (locked) ready to exchange ... _________________ -- http://rzr.online.fr/q/ata : Please help to unlock ST3120026A in max security mode , lost all pwd, do not care about data, free help welcome ... BlackST wrote: Come to Italy then :mrgreen: TX is a little bit closer. :D _________________ Good Luck